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Davidagall
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/06/2008, 14:07:12 PM durch Davidagall |
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Where so you think microstock sites will be in 30 years. Will the market change so much that the sites will disappear? Will they become so competitive that only the pros have a chance to make any money? Or are they here for good as they stand?
As a hobby photographer could I count on microstock to help me in my retirement? Could I upload 500 pictures a year for the next 30 years and have a much more stable retirement? What do you think will happen to the future of microstock? |
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Tonygers
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/06/2008, 14:24:32 PM durch Tonygers |
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I believe the strong will eventually overpower and devour the weak till only a couple remain. With a little evolution of the survivors to survive in any environment. Just like life itself!
WHOOAAAA!!!! That almost sounded intelligent and that scares me! I'm not THAT bright!
I better go for a lie down or something. he he.
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Fujifilm finepix s9600 9,0 megapixel
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Jerryl5
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/06/2008, 15:09:16 PM durch Jerryl5 |
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That is a long time for technology, and the changes would be profound.
We would expect camera resolution of 100 Mp to be common and
software that could generate in real time any scene you can think of.
Displays would be fully 3d and changed by touch and by thought.
Files of virtually any size would be easily moved around the world in seconds.
Of course, the dollar would only be worth 2 cents, although you would see
huge sales from your work.
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Kelpfish
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/06/2008, 18:27:24 PM durch Kelpfish |
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My guess is in 2-3 years we'll see some buyouts and/or mergers and will also see some of the weaker sites dissappear. We may end up with a max of 2-3 microstock sites, limiting your ability for income. Then as stated, technology will begin to interfer with the current model for contributors after about 10 more years (when it is affordable and practical to use). I believe that the technology to create any image on the fly is already here and is in its infancy. In fact, I believe that it was mentioned on some photo forum last year. The technology will only be limited to the creativity of the user, making most photographers, if not all, obsolete to any microstock or macrostock site. My personal opinion is that microstock has a good 10 years left before we are cast aside for technology.
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Dennist1
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/06/2008, 20:40:36 PM durch Dennist1 |
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My take is that sooner or later (and really, already starting) the older files in the collection will be getting deleted and replaced with newer ones. Technological improvements are cyclically making it possible to generate much better quality in just a few years time. That would mean you would only have a few years of sales once you retired before your images would become obsolete and be deleted. Now, to stretch that out to 30 years from now; who knows but here's a couple thoughts.
1. I think that for # one, you better have a back up of your files located off-planet. This planet may not be the safest location.
2. Todays pictures will be very valuable to museums ... "See, there really used to be life down there but it wasn't very intelligent!"
3. Advertising will decline significantly, and therefor image demand. Companies are consolidating be the handfuls ... it will become more and more one company doing one thing. If there is no choice of brands, why bother advertising.
4. Many of your subjects that are shot today will be too old fashioned to be marketable then. Clothing will be radically different, todays cars will look like 50 Chevies look to us today. Mice and keyboards won't be needed(retinal sensors and voice recognition). Currency won't be needed (electronic substitutes). So, what subject could you shoot that will still look the same then?
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Thefinalmiracle
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Nachricht bearbeitet um 05/07/2008, 07:58:59 AM durch Thefinalmiracle |
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Microstock technology will evolve like we will. If you are in touch with the market like you are today you might have a good retirement plan ready for you. No business winds up till there is money around. It might change its appearance or a bit of its foundation concepts but it will still help you earn.
I think the only difference will be that Microstock will be called NANOSTOCK after 30 years. hehheh |
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Noonie
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/07/2008, 09:56:32 AM durch Noonie |
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WOW! Kinda scary,huh? I love to think about strange things in the future. I'm beaming my photos out to space as I post this. Soon I will do what Tony suggested and go lie down, but I will cover my head and stay until it's safe.
Don't worry about photos getting old fashioned. Don't we love to look at old styles and laugh?! And also, the styles keep coming back in some form or another. Just think, in the future it may amaze people (or whatever) that we all had hair at some time in our lives.
And someone NEEDS to have copies of antiquities such as this of mine:
AHHHH---the "Good Ole Days"----------------- |
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Nikon D200, Olympus C5060
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Amyemilia
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/07/2008, 18:25:38 PM durch Amyemilia |
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As Noonie says, those "antique" gas ration coupons might be quite interesting to those people 30 years from now. I know I like seeing writing and objects from days gone by.
Let's see - I'll be in my 80's. Hopefully still photographing or whatever we call it then. But for now, I suggest focusing (pardon the pun) on the disappearing things. Common wildlife may not be so common in the future. Natural vistas will sooth the human soul for a very long time to come - more than my lifetime for sure. I am remembering some scenes from Soylent Green, projected videos/movies of nature on the walls...
I don't think microstock is something to depend on for income but it may indeed be a continuing source of what they used to call "pin money"! I'd really love to make some big sales but this is the best way I've found to at least get out in the market. Surely some new mechanism will come for the next generation of technology and photographers. |
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Walleyelj
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/07/2008, 21:31:34 PM durch Walleyelj |
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While technology and means will change, photography is a window into a moment in time which touches humanity in a way that can never be eliminted or erased. It's also a unique form of documentation. What started as cave painting, then evolved into the classical paintings from the 1500-1800s, has continued in it's most basic form through the advent and evolution of photography as we know it at this moment in time. The more people are buried in technology and artifical creation, the more they will save a place for realistic, non-animated moemts of our lives and the people and events that came before them. Renderings of humanity and the world we live in will always be in demand in some form - just may evolve into another medium like painting and photography, but remember that painting didn't wither and die off when photography came along - it just adjusted annd adpated to a new place in our lives. |
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Canon Rebel XTi (400D)
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The_guitar_mann
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/08/2008, 08:31:35 AM durch The_guitar_mann |
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Photography's been around a few years now (150 give or take a few decades). It's an art form firstly, then a hobby, then a business; always has been, probably always will.
For arguments sake, let's say every 50 years there is a major breakthrough in technolgy. Black & white - Color - Digital - *what next? I'd say we're governed by the laws of physics and so you'll always need a lens to focus regardless of the recording format. You will also always need an artist to compose the scene press the button.
In answer to your question. I have no idea what's going to happen in the future; the artist is safe in my opinion, but the business side of things will still be driven by the media.
* My guess is a 20MP image recorded onto a solid state sensor via solar powered glasses, triggered by blinking; then downloaded instantly and wirelessly onto a print format impregnated with a load of technology (electronic paper). I think you'll find Polaroid already have a range of inkess printers, so it's no fairytale. |
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Sophiesourit
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Nachricht bearbeitet um 05/09/2008, 14:06:33 PM durch Sophiesourit |
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Well, for the euro community you know 1E=1.6$
In paris 500g of pasta= 1.25 E while the average rent for a studio is 500E/month (paris) so....
My RPD make variation from 0.8 to 1.15$ .... So I'm eating 200g of pasta /day :) :)
I would say that the evolution of the market and technology are point to examin, the evolution of the price the pictures are sold is also a point, the time your picture is going to be "in the wind and sold" is also a point to think but another important point is the country you wish to live ....
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Bjeayes
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/11/2008, 08:33:35 AM durch Bjeayes |
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30 years ? I can't work out what's happening in microstock in 3 months time. At the moment I don't think 500 photos would be enough (and it will get worse) to pay my food bill for the month. It may be enough to buy some new dentures or a walking stick every now and then :) |
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Neonriver
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/11/2008, 10:23:11 AM durch Neonriver |
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Several post about photos becoming old and obsolete is not true. Photography is a very powerful and stops time forever. Thirty year old photos of city skyline will become more valuable. How much would a thirty year old nude photos of Hillary or Obama would be worth today ? The list is endless.
I have several photo that are 25 years old and I am still selling downloads and prints of these images. My most popular image is a beach scene with sand dunes, and early morning sky.
In 1982 I created an image of the old Houston Astrodome after a storm. When they tear down the first dome stadium in the world, this image will become priceless. By the way I currently sell prints of this image; not bad for twenty minutes of work 26 years ago.
Please delete all your OLD image; it will increase the value of my OLD images. |
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Lisafx
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/12/2008, 17:56:34 PM durch Lisafx |
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I don't count on this to support me in retirement. The market is so much more saturated with contributors than it was just three years ago when I started, and the quality has skyrocketed.
I find I have to work harder than ever just go keep pace and am constantly improving my skills and equipment. As more professional photographers from the traditional agencies start shooting for the micros, competition will become even more fierce.
That said, I LOVE doing this and will keep making stock photos as long as possible. I just don't expect my current portfolio will support me much beyond a year or two per image. That is except for the rare very high performer.... |
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Canon 5D, 40D, Various lenses, flashes, studio lights, light...
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Sophiesourit
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/13/2008, 12:32:08 PM durch Sophiesourit |
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Yep, I do love this too, and I don't count on it for my living or retirement, even if sometimes I hope some kind of ...
I agree that due to the increase of contributors and images it is harder to maintain the same amount while some months are just crazy.
To be honest I just can not explain why I like submitting pictures and keep going with that, except that I truly enjoy it.
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Maxfx
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/14/2008, 16:03:44 PM durch Maxfx |
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30 years?
In 3 years, everybody will have cell phones with 10-20 mp cameras in them which will process smooth noise reduction, face/contrast detection, instant auto focus and wireless upload option.
In a few years, 10 yrs old kids will take pictures and send them to newspapers, magazines, tv channels (already begun).
Then, needs for microstock will change too. A camera shoots 100 frames per second raw is already out there. Processing 17-20 mp raw files. Creating video/movies with raw images...
Now, in a decade; we shall see digital cameras with hard drives, internal flash memories, in camera softwares, ftp abilities, etc.
I don't know where it is going... but it is going towards faster (fps) and larger (mp). It's going towards 'instant need/usage'. I won't be surprised if ''print'' does not exist anymore in a decade or two... specially half of the world is concerned about environmental problems, saving rain forests, trees, saving The Mother Earth. Print will be replaced with 'digital' completely I believe. Or, it will be extremely limited.
Oh boy... future is bright... or scary? :) |
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Photosaurus
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Nachricht bearbeitet um 05/14/2008, 17:01:31 PM durch Photosaurus |
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the future....... I think, good created photos will always be used (not everybody who uses a 20-mp-camera takes good and exiting photos - the eye and the feeling will be still important) and needed as long as advertisement will exist......... also good illustrations.... to which conditions? I hope, the existing conditions will last as long as possible. |
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Maxfx
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/14/2008, 18:05:28 PM durch Maxfx |
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See, I am not also sure how 'good' will shape up. It might have a new meaning than what we think what it is today.
Looking at TV shows now, reality tv shows work like magnet. Nothing too special in artistic way, nobody worries about lighthing or trying to use supermodels/actors/actresses. They attract the most crowd. Why? Because crowd sees part of them... combines themselves with them.
And movies, get a camera, record a movie, sell it. More ordinary, more real, more powerful... and more feeling.
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Markogt
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/15/2008, 06:08:28 AM durch Markogt |
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I agree with Neonriver. Old photos are always more valuable when time passes. They are probably there when we are gone forever. I am sure that 100 mb photos are pointless. Even 10 mb photos are plenty. But technology envolves and maybe soon we can capture photos more naturally as we see the world. |
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Fcarucci
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Nachricht geschrieben um 05/15/2008, 17:02:32 PM durch Fcarucci |
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One improvement I can see happening at some point in the future is recording distance of a pixel along with its colour. Give me distance for each pixel and I can:
- compute a normal per pixel, thus adding new lights where there was no light and compute how they affect the scene in real-time
- depth of field where there wasn't depth of field
- add atmospheric scattering, proper fogging, distance depth cueing and so on
I already do this stuff in real-time on computer generated images in a game: doing it on a photo would be great fun. |
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